angelwings said:
Uhhhh, the no sleep thing i cannot deal, my first two days were like this & i had two random days this week aswell with little sleep, it feels really shitty. I hope you can sleep soon!!

Thanks =) I actually ended up taking an otc sleeping pill last night and slept for 12 hours. I think I really needed it although it didn’t help with my energy levels today unfortunately.
 
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Day 7
Took duromine at 6am, went back to bed and woke up at 9am. So I actually had about 12hrs sleep last night, I did wake up a couple of times though but getting back to sleep was easy.
Despite getting a good sleep I still felt pretty meh today and didn’t really have any extra energy or motivation to do anything. I forced myself to do some exercise but after that I was honestly ready for a nap. Don’t know if it was just because I overslept or if my body has gotten used to duromine now so I don’t get the energy boost anymore. Up side I didn’t have crazy dry mouth today.
I did a 30 minute cardio circuit I found on YouTube this morning and my upper thighs are still sore .. I really hate squats but I got my heart rate up, sweated like crazy and pushed through it. Mentally I felt a lot better after but physically I felt like crap. I thought doing a workout in the morning might help get me energised for the day but I kind of did the opposite. Which I then hated myself for because my house is a mess. I think I might try doing my next workout in the evening and see if that works out better but I do try to avoid doing it while my partner is home because he makes fun of me.

I started getting tired again about 8pm but there were a few things I wanted to get done before bed so fast forward to now and I am wide awake again.
Weight - 94kg - loss of 3.4kg
 
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So my final and official weigh in for week 1 came in at 94.8kg - total loss of 2.6kg. I know this is still good for a week but I am a bit disappointed since that’s actually a gain of 800g since yesterday and honestly I thought I would loose more then that in the first week. I am feeling a little discouraged as I know people start to loose less in the weeks following and I was hoping the first week would give me a good jump start. Trying to stay positive though, 2.6kg down is still better then 2.6kg on. I just don’t know what more I can do to give myself a better chance at success as I have been eating really healthy and a lot smaller meals compared to what I was before and I’ve been exercising which I didn’t do before.

I’ve set my goals for the following weeks at 1kg a week so anything more then that and I will be happy although I would love to see 2kg come off a week but I don’t know how realistic that expectation is.

On another note I think I may have over done it yesterday with my exercise, the muscles in my thighs are absolutely killing me today and I can barely walk. For anyone that is actually reading this do you have any tips for knowing when you are pushing yourself too hard during a workout? Or are the sore muscles just all part of it and something I’m going to have to get used to?
 
Sore muscles come with it. Do you stretch after your workout?
 
if your still sore your probably also carrying water weight hence the apparent gain.

Sore muscles are an indication that you’ve worked muscle in a way they aren’t used to. If you continue to work them the same way you’ll experience less soreness after. Running is my thing, when I started back up last year I would be sore the next day or two. Now I might get sore if I have a run with hills or do a much longer than normal run.
 
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Plucky said:
if your still sore your probably also carrying water weight hence the apparent gain.

Sore muscles are an indication that you’ve worked muscle in a way they aren’t used to. If you continue to work them the same way you’ll experience less soreness after. Running is my thing, when I started back up last year I would be sore the next day or two. Now I might get sore if I have a run with hills or do a much longer than normal run.

This might seem like a dumb question but I never really used to work out much at all... When you get really sore after, is it better to wait until the pain settles down before working out like that again or continue to do it daily and just fight through the pain?
 
Determined93 said:
This might seem like a dumb question but I never really used to work out much at all... When you get really sore after, is it better to wait until the pain settles down before working out like that again or continue to do it daily and just fight through the pain?
I would recommend you continue to workout (unless you have an actual injury) but perhaps at a reduced intensity, or start cycling through “areas”. So lower body one day, upper body the next, etc. once you find it getting easier it’s time to up the intensity.

At this early stage it’s not about going as hard as you can, but more about getting yourself into a routine that you can continue post Duromine.
 
Hey Determined93, cut yourself some slack - that's a solid loss. Have you considered reducing your dose a bit to see if that helps with the nausea and sleeplessness? 40mgs is a lot. Otherwise, I can highly recommend dimming all the lights after the kids have gone to bed and running yourself a luxurious magnesium bath - which will also help with the muscle pain. :)

Pushing yourself involves challenging your body and mind to work past your comfort zone. You should feel fatigued, but you should be able to carry on with the rest of your day without being too drained to accomplish daily tasks. If you find that you’re unable to accomplish, or you're disinterested in normal activities like work and socialising with friends after your workouts, that may be a sign that you're pushing too hard.

Not being able to catch your breath for a short time is OK, assuming you just did an intense short workout, but not being able to catch your breath for a few minutes after you stop is definitely a sign that something is off.

Your heart rate is also a good indicator that you might be pushing it too much You can check your resting heart rate (i.e. your heart rate when you’re not working out), check it right after the workout and then check your heart rate again when you get up in the morning. If it starts to go up in the morning, then you are most likely overtraining and your body isn’t recovering well.

While it’s fine to be sore here and there (and likely to happen when you push yourself - especially if you are going from nothing to something), having soreness beyond normal—meaning, you never seem to have a day when you aren’t sore—is a bad sign. It could mean that you are pushing yourself so hard repeatedly that your body isn’t able to repair itself—and that can lead to injury. Typically, when I start working out, I am sore for the first week and then it goes away once my muscles get the message that 'this is what we're doing now'.

Consistency is key. Results will follow.
 
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Sherlock_76 said:
I would recommend you continue to workout (unless you have an actual injury) but perhaps at a reduced intensity, or start cycling through “areas”. So lower body one day, upper body the next, etc. once you find it getting easier it’s time to up the intensity.

At this early stage it’s not about going as hard as you can, but more about getting yourself into a routine that you can continue post Duromine.

Thanks so much for the tips. I have a knee injury but that wasn’t actually what caused all the pain, it’s just my thigh muscles as I did a lot of squats and I’ve basically never done more then a couple in one hit (except in the pool). I honestly didn’t do much in the way of working out yesterday as I was so sore and spent most of the day out shopping and running around. I did find that walking around helped with the pain in my thighs but going to sit down (especially on the toilet) was so painful and bending down sucked too. Today I’m still sore but not as bad. Don’t know if I will get a chance to do a workout today either as I have a heap of yard work to get done but will aim for getting back into it tomorrow.
 
Hey guys, I just wanted somewhere that I could write down my losses/thoughts maybe gains/plateus.

I am a 23 year old female who has struggled with my weight like many of you for my whole life.

I have been on duromine in the past and it definitely did help me.

I was lap banded in 2014 and lost about 35kgs. I have managed to gain back nearly all of that.. around 27kgs.

So here I am back on duromine lol
This time around I haven’t felt the boost of energy like I did in the past. Last time I could walk for 10kms a day whereas now I’m feeling quite sluggish. My appetite is very much down and I’m not craving foods so I guess that’s the most important part for me anyway because I tend to mindlessly eat in front of the tv.

Today is my third day so I’ll be back on Thursday when I weigh myself.
 
skinnymee said:
Hey Determined93, cut yourself some slack - that's a solid loss. Have you considered reducing your dose a bit to see if that helps with the nausea and sleeplessness? 40mgs is a lot. Otherwise, I can highly recommend dimming all the lights after the kids have gone to bed and running yourself a luxurious magnesium bath - which will also help with the muscle pain. :)

Pushing yourself involves challenging your body and mind to work past your comfort zone. You should feel fatigued, but you should be able to carry on with the rest of your day without being too drained to accomplish daily tasks. If you find that you’re unable to accomplish, or you're disinterested in normal activities like work and socialising with friends after your workouts, that may be a sign that you're pushing too hard.

Not being able to catch your breath for a short time is OK, assuming you just did an intense short workout, but not being able to catch your breath for a few minutes after you stop is definitely a sign that something is off.

Your heart rate is also a good indicator that you might be pushing it too much You can check your resting heart rate (i.e. your heart rate when you’re not working out), check it right after the workout and then check your heart rate again when you get up in the morning. If it starts to go up in the morning, then you are most likely overtraining and your body isn’t recovering well.

While it’s fine to be sore here and there (and likely to happen when you push yourself - especially if you are going from nothing to something), having soreness beyond normal—meaning, you never seem to have a day when you aren’t sore—is a bad sign. It could mean that you are pushing yourself so hard repeatedly that your body isn’t able to repair itself—and that can lead to injury. Typically, when I start working out, I am sore for the first week and then it goes away once my muscles get the message that 'this is what we're doing now'.

Consistency is key. Results will follow.

I haven’t actually considered cutting the dose as years ago when I first tried duromine I was on the 30mg but it didn’t do much for me so my doc bumped me up to 40mg so this time she just put me straight back on that. The nausea and sleeplessness as a side effect has settled down a bit now. I still struggle to sleep some nights and as a result feel a bit sick the next day but I had that problem before starting on duromine. I seem to have a sweet spot for going to bed at night and if I leave it too long I wake right back up and can’t sleep. I’m working on planning my days better so that when that sweet spot comes along I can just go to bed instead of telling myself I have to do this this and this before I can go to bed.

Thanks for the tip on the bath, I actually have some epsom salt that’s in like a sports blend I just forgot that I had it haha so might try that if I am still sore tonight.

Thank you for all of the tips and support. It is much appreciated =)
 
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Day 4 and I’m feeling hunger more which sucks...

The first two days I had zero hunger and made myself eat. Yesterday I had a bit of hunger but wasn’t thinking about food which was good and now today I’m feeling hungry and thinking about food :/

Here’s to hoping I don’t turn into food monster tomorrow.
 
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Just wanted to add that I’m really struggling with drinking water it actually makes me feel physically sick and I’m not sure why.... I know it’s really important for weight loss but I just can’t do it. I have a few sips here and there and one juice box a day because of calories and sugar. I’m hoping it doesn’t hinder my weight loss.

I’ve never had trouble with water in the past and I actually enjoy drinking so its a bit weird.

My side effects so far are:
Dry mouth
I had some mild shakes in my hands yesterday
Sleep has been affected. Day one and two I had 2 hours sleep and day three I managed a long 9 hour or so sleep because I was so sleep deprived.
Diarrhoea
Struggling to drink water
I’ve also had a soapy taste in my mouth which is weird
 
Hello Chum! Welcome to the forum! I don’t know how, but you need to make yourself drink water. It might help adding some lemon/lime juice to it. Or you might take that juice box (small of 200 ml?) and add a teaspoon/tablespoon of it into each glass of water that you take. Not having more than one small juice box is a reasonable amount of sugar (if there is not that much sugar in it, because sometimes a small box of juice has up to 8 tsp of sugar). You might be getting hungry because of insufficient hydration. =( Besides, you also have diarrhoea, so you’re losing liquid and your slat-mineral balance does suffer from that. I hope you will manage to cope with the water task and keep in mind that you need to eat small meals in the first part of the day, so that you don’t binge later. It’s logic. Best of luck and wish you a successful weight loss journey!
 
I ate some really spicy food today and had no issue with drinking a bottle of water after that haha
Thanks!
 
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Drinking more water today and yesterday and munching on cucumbers for that little bit of extra water too :)

Weighing myself tomorrow!
 
Well done! Fingers crossed!;)
 
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Chum said:
Just wanted to add that I’m really struggling with drinking water it actually makes me feel physically sick and I’m not sure why.... I know it’s really important for weight loss but I just can’t do it. I have a few sips here and there and one juice box a day because of calories and sugar. I’m hoping it doesn’t hinder my weight loss.

I’ve never had trouble with water in the past and I actually enjoy drinking so its a bit weird.

My side effects so far are:
Dry mouth
I had some mild shakes in my hands yesterday
Sleep has been affected. Day one and two I had 2 hours sleep and day three I managed a long 9 hour or so sleep because I was so sleep deprived.
Diarrhoea
Struggling to drink water
I’ve also had a soapy taste in my mouth which is weird
Same as me! I am on day 2.
 

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